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and so, i went on -- >> montana. >> and so i went searching for replacement coverage for the employees that had been laid off, only to find out that cobra doesn't apply to me because i have less than 20 employees. and that conservatively affects 80% of all workers in montana. so, they were pretty much out on their own. and i was wondering if what we can do to eliminate discrimination against small employers, as an example, we're a lumberyard, we're out there lifting boards and packing stuff all day long. every one of my remaining seven employees are fit. so, why are we and i as an employer able to provide a lesser level of benefits to my employees and yet an employer with 30 employees who sit in cubicles on their butts instead of working them off gets a better rate? >> that was a pretty good question. so, for all of you who are all sitting on your -- what did you call them? no. as i said, small businesses is probably as vulnerable as anybody. and one of the things that max has been working very hard on -- and this just doesn't get advertised, but i want to make sure e
to turn to the president now. he is on his way to montana for another health care town hall. why montana? is there an expectation for a lively debate at this town hall? >> montana is a historical red state. there might be a bit more of an opportunity for controversy. on tuesday in portsmouth, new hampshire, he solicited more skeptical questions. we will see if that plays out. montana is also the home of max baucus. that committee will be the center of gravity. when congress comes back in the middle of september, the white house has set this deadline for the committee. if it does not, the white house has indicated, it might proceed strictly on its own without the -- without republicans on board. max baucus is a central figure in this legislative drama. rick: we want to hear from you if you have received an unsolicited email from the white house. tell us about it. for moron this, we have a couple of great guests. we're also joined by an editor for "the national review." everybody hates chain letters. >> particularly, if they are coming from the white house. rick: what do you make all of th
his health care plan in montana, but is everybody buying what the president is selling? >> we keep getting the bull. that's all we get. is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. >> reporter: plus, michael vick returns to the nfl after two years in prison for dogfighting. >> i was wrong for what i did. after everything that happened at that point in time, my life was wrong. to this day, i can't understand why i was involved in such pointless activity. >> not everyone is welcoming him with open arms. >> i'm just a little upset with it, because i'm such an animal lover. >> crazy signing. i don't know what they'll do with the public relations part of it. >> has vick paid enough of a price for his crime? >>> and the stories you may have missed this week. chuck grassley's blast at the president, and the town halls that didn't turn into shout fests. >>> plus, what happens when three rock gods get together on the same stage? warning. it might get loud. ♪ >>> hi, everybody. campbell brown off today. those are our big questions. but we start with our look at the stories
in belgrade, montana. the president challenged the way in which television news organizations are covering town hall meetings being covered by congressman. president obama says tv loves a ruckus, as he put it. but the president said nothing new about his health care proposals. ed henry traveling with the president reports from big sky, montana. >> reporter: the president's town hall was gentle by congressional standards, but he did get one pointed question about his health reform plan. >> we keep getting the bull. that's all we get, is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> look, you are absolutely right. that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> reporter: the president vowed again he will not raise taxes on the middle class to pay for the difference. >> when i was campaigning, i made a promise that i would not raise your taxes if you made $250,000 a year or less. that's what i said. but i said that for people like myself who make more than that, there's nothing w
are some scenes from the president's town hall from earlier today in montana. >> that is for all. [applause] >> thank you, montana. thank you. [applause] sean: nobody in the president's make-believe world rkts they don't like guns very much in montana, do they? >> i'm a proud n.r.a. member. [applause] >> i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. sean: i think four people clapped. did you hear the crickets chirping even though there are people in montana who believe in second amendment rights. joining me now is karl rove. welcome to the studio. >> thanks for having me here. the hannity headquarters. sean: i like that. let's start with the poll numbers and you brought the black board and let's look. >> this is the backdrop. his job approval in the fox poll, 53-40 approve, disapprove. but among independents, 49-44 and that is a shift from a few weeks ago when it was 54-38. so in a matter of three weeks, it has declined among independents and you see that same decline in independents in health care reform. 34% approve. 49 disapprove. among independents, 29-50 and in july it
a town hall in montana, taking the first family to nearby yellowstone park. mr. obama came because when it comes to passing reform the road truly runs through montana. raw politics from ed henry. >> reporter: montana is a nice place to visit this time of year, but the president had more on his mind than fly-fishing. he came for urgent business, buttering up the state senior center max bachus who could hold the fate of health reform in his hands. >> first of all the man who is working tirelessly to make sure the american people get a fair deal when it comes to health care in america, please give max bachus a round of applause. >> reporter: in private, top presidential advisers acknowledged the fight reached a critical stage because the opposition reached some steam, capitalizing on anger at congressional town hall meetings. >> where does this state that government has the powers to take over health care. >> reporter: by comparison the president's town hall was tame. he did get one pointed question that reflected the strong opposition he's facing. >> we keep getting the bull. that is all
was back on the healthcare offensive today holding a town hall meeting in montana. mike emanuel reports on how his message played in big sky country. >> it had the look of a campaign appearance but this was about president obama's full court press to reform healthcare. the state was where max baucus presides and the president started it in a relaxed fashion. >> here in mon tan na, you have bears, moose and elk and in washington, you just have mostly bull. awhile the event started off with fireworks, some people challenged the president and senator baucus. >> all we get is the bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. you're saving here. you're saving over there. you're going to take a little money here, a little money there. but you have no money. the only way you are going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. you're right. i can't do that. so we're going to have to find some resources. >> then later, a man asked mr. obama why his industry is being portrayed as
to montana. this was just before they spelled out how they would have cost savings. megyn: what do you realistically predict for these seniors, as a result of these potential cuts? he says he is reducing inefficiencies, so what would happen? >> the program would simply go away. no insurance company making 20% profit on this program would continue this. this program would go away and seniors would no longer have -- i suspect every medicare advantage holder would lose their plan overnight. megyn: how do we know what to believe? you are telling us this, and president obama has said repeatedly that he will not cut benefits, that his plan will strengthen medicare and reduce abuse. as well, they are going to put $240 billion more into medicare to ensure physician payment are not cut. who can we believe? >> people just need to apply logic. if you cut a program by 20%, it boggles the imagination that the program can still exist -- that assumes that profit margins from insurance companies are 20%. you would have to be in microsoft or google to have that kind of profit margins. just think about
expect or what can we expect from the crowd in montana? >> we are hearing that outside this airport hangar there will be demonstrations. a local tea party group predicts hundreds rallying against this legislation but there are at least one group supporting healthcare reform that will be there. in new hampshire outside there was a little bit of a rally but inside a more sympathetic crowd than we have seen at the confrontational town halls. the white house said nobody was preselected, that not all town halls are screaming matches. tuesday in new hampshire this was done by an onstar hotline lottery. today it is a line-up of first-come, first-served so we expect the dynamic could be different. as you mentioned senator max baucus will be attending. his home state. he is the key figure. he is part of the gang of six a bipartisan group, three republicans, lee democrats trying to negotiate in the senate a compromise deal. so a key figure. bill: polling shows a drop in the support of the healthcare reform bill. how is the white house reacting to that? >> we had a relevant poll out yesterday
a town hall meeting in montana. may be rowdier than the crowd in new hampshire earlier this week. usually they told signups on a web site. but tickets are being handed out on a first come first come basis. town halls have been heating up as you know all around the country this month. we will keep you potioned on what happens there secretary of state hillary clinton is wrapping up her trip to africa. this morning right now she is in cape verde day preparing to talk with nevez. she met with lie brotherrian leaders and spoke about democracy. >> there are no image wandz or i would have brought one for every one of you there are no quick fixes for countries making the transition from violent conflict to lasting peace and stability. alisyn: clinton toured seven african nation to bolster economic ties. brian: michael vick will try to resurrect his career with the eagles. he signed an option for a second year. the deal worth about $7 million. vick is backed in the league less than a month after being conditionally reinstated. following his prison term on dogfighting charges. so what do football f
, colorado. his meeting just like the one in montana have been tamer than some of what we've seen. also in his weekly address, the president urging americans to turn down the temperature and listen more. >> i know there's plenty of real concern and skepticism out there. the idea of change can be unsettling, and i know there's some folks who believe that government should have no role at all in solving our problems. these are legitimate differences, worthy of the real discussion that america deserves. >> now, the first family is traveling along on this road trip, seeing the sights like yellowstone national park. why is he focusing on the traditional red states? ed henry takes a look behinl the health care fight. >> reporter: sure, montana is a nice place to visit this time of year. but the president had more on his mind than just fly fishing. he also came for urgent business. buttering up the state's senior senator and chairman of the finance committee max baucus who could hold the fate of health reform in his hands. >> first of all, the man who is working tirelessly to make sure that th
to take this anymore!" >> my name is randy from montana. that i believe our constitution and it's a very important thing. i also get my news from the cable networks, because i don't like the spin that comes from the other places. >> you have to be careful about the cable networks, though. okay. go ahead. go on with the question. >> geraldo: as people vent, washington squirms, and town hall meetings erupt in impassioned debate. this is a fox news alert. >> the notion that somehow i ran for public office or member of congress are in so they can go around pulling the plug on grandma. i mean, when you start making arguments like that, that simply dishonest. >> geraldo: the midst of sometimes wild rhetoric, spreading anxiety and apparently widespread discontent, the president is continuing his now deeply personal push to get people behind his crusade to change the nation's healthcare system. and following up on tuesday's granite state stop in new hampshire and friday's big town hall meeting in the big sky state of montana, after visiting old faithful and a day of fly fishing, tonight he was i
that to you. he was in montana yesterday. while he was there he heard from an impassioned insurance salesman about health care reform. listen to this. >> mr. president, i make a living selling individual health insurance. okay. obviously, i have paid very close attention to this insurance debate. as you know, the health insurance companies are in favor of health care reform. and have a number of very good proposals before congress to work with government to provide insurance for the uninsured and cover individuals with pre-existing conditions. why is it that you have changed your strategy from talking about health care reform to health insurance reform? and decided to vilify the insurance companies? >> okay, that is a fair question. that's a fair question. first of all, you are absolutely right that the insurance companies in some cases have been constructive. so i will give you a particular example, aetna has been trying to work with us in dealing with some of the pre-existing condition stuff. that's absolutely true. and there are other come pans who have done the same. now i want to just b
-section? >> i have been to montana, that is one of the most nra saturated states in america. people take their personal liberties very seriously there. even for someone to stand up and say that i am an nra member, this would normally rattle the roof. i bought that was very revealing. let's assume that it was totally on the up and up and very legitimate. there are still some things that the president said today that are not getting near the target. for example, he continues to use the phrase 47 million. that figure is nonsense. there are a number of people who are uninsured because they don't fill out the forms yet they already qualify for medicaid and medicare. there are 12 million illegal aliens, is the president for to pay for every illegal person? there are a number of people who could afford insurance but they choose not to have it because they would rather have a new track or go to dinner more often. let's be honest about the figure. if we want to cover 5 million americans that cannot have insurance, i don't know anyone who has a problem with that. that is not that difficult. what t
this montana town that is getting millions of dollars to protect its cliquiet rural border. it is not the only controversial project getting money. you will not like the answers. gmegyn: nasa is hoping for a midnight run of shuttle discovery. it is open to blastoff tonight. first weather, and then a fuel delve problem caused this to be delayed the first two times. gregg: thousands of false entry in the united states -- thousands of people entering our united states every day. only about three of them pass through this town in montana. it is scheduled to get $15 million. couldn't the cash be spent better? the vice president for policy and communication for the national taxpayers union joins us. on either side, there are these little huts, but there are only three people coming through. on our southern border, hundreds of people are getting through every day. shouldn't the money be spent on the south? >> assuming that the money is being spent affectively in the first place, yes, it ought to be prioritized into places where the border crossings are occurring more often. this is par for the course
care either. laura: president obama takes his health care crusade to a town hall in montana. we will let you know what happened this time. >> you ought to go to one of those congressional health care meetings. [ laughter ] >> you would do really well there. >> plus, bill clinton takes on a heckler and jumps into the health care reform fray. >> i'm telling you, i don't care how low they drive support for, this with misinformation, the minute the president signs a health care reform bill, approval will go up. laura: is clinton helping obama or upstaging him? dick morris will analyze the situation. >> i don't think that it's going to be real pleasing for americans to consider health care being taken over by the feds. laura: the power of sarah palin. why she may be one of the most powerful voices in the health care reform debate. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- laura: hi, i'm laura ingraham, in for bill o'reilly. thanks for w
are looking at pictures of the first family as they board air force one enroute to montana today, where the president will be holding a town hall meeting on health care in bozeman, one of two in the next couple of days. there are expectations that he will get protests and tough questions. off they go, boarding. it is set to begin at 2:15 eastern time. gregg: the philadelphia eagles holding a news conference momentarily to announce what we already know officially, that michael vick will return to the game after an 18-month prison sentence of four charges relating to dogfighting. the gory details include electrocuting and drowning unwanted animals. a spokesperson for people for the ethical treatment of animals issued a statement a saying, "what sort of message does this send to fans who care about animals and do not want to see them harmed? since vick has not given a public acknowledgment that he is remorseful, time will tell." vick could receive nearly $7 million. when he first joined in 2002, he was drafted to the falcons for $62 million. since then, he has found himself not just behind
. thank you very much. jane: white tail montana, population 71. about three people crossed the border to canada here every day. so why did they just get $15 million in stimulus money, your tax dollars? politics at play? and it is only a test, but an important one. the first test of a rocket lying there on its side jane: when president obama announced that stimulus package, he said he was basically banning politicians from using earmarked to pay for pet projects. senator $20 million -- $700 million were spent on border crossings. the associated press has discovered that low purdy checkpoints were chosen even though they work on bottom of the list. white tail, montana, will get $50 million to build a new border station. the town has a population of 71 and about three travelers a day cross the border here. so why the new station? janet napolitano was pressure to dump this project up. they say that senator tester boasted about this project, using his influence. 4200 trucks a day, rated among the highest priority, yes this was passed over for stimulus money. how did this happen? >> they we
to be in montana and colorado. is montana today? because i think he is going to get some friction there. i think that he welcomes it. he has got to also worry about his accuracy because, number one, saying that he is going to lean out medicare and cut out waste, that's going to save enough money to pay for the plan is wrong. saying you are not going to tax anyone over $250,000 that's wrong. plans currently constituted in the house and they are not going to be -- they are not going to add up and be deficit neutral. dari: you know, i think one of the other, perhaps even a greater concern for obama is something that he also said yesterday. he almost kind of put his foot in his own mouth because he probably wanted to take it back once it came out of his mouth. he cited the post office as having problems. but u.p.s. and fedex is doing rather well. obviously the post office is government-run. which leads a lot of people to say well, if the post office is suffering, and it's government-run why in the world would we want government to run health care? i'm sure he regretted saying that because he kind of
? >> of course. i like my life. >> in montana and colorado, those states were presidential battlegrounds. now they are the front lines for health care reform. >> thanks so much. we have seep and heard the anger and frustration. we have heard the insults being thrown around. but through all the shouting, is the message getting through? does the president have to explain that he won't pull the plug on grandma? that is what he was saying yesterday. our panel of experts weighs in. >> and a u.s. army private under arrest this morning accused of being a krablgt killer. the 18-year-old soldier is one of three men charged with murdering a cartel member who was also a dea informant. we are live in dallas this morning. what makes this so shocking, ed, is that this fellow was allegedly working for a cartel on the mexican side of the border but the hit was on the american side of the border. >> a chilling example of the power, influence, and reach of the mexican drug cartel. there is a growing concern that the reach might be beginning to corrupt u.s. officials, authorities,or people working along the bor
. in townhall stops across the country. in belgrade, montana, the president took questions from an insurance salesman. later today it is grand junction, colorado. cnn will bring you live coverage, 6:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> since this is the president's plan, his party is catching a lot of flak at the townhall sessions. republicans deny stirring up the protests at the events. in this week's gop address, utah senator orrin hatch is happy to see the opponents speaking out. >> nearly 85% of americans have coverage. and they are really worried about what reform means for them. especially our seniors. these concerns are moving from kitchen table conversations to townhall discussions. i am disappointed about the attempt to characterize the behavior of americans, expressing their concerns, as quote, unamerican, unquote. though i strongly encourage the use of respectful debate in these town halls we should not be stifling these discussions. there is nothing unamerican about disagrelts. in fact our great nation was founded on speaking our minds. families are voicing their concerns because they feel
meetings, new hampshire, montana colorado. >> no, no, no. bill: come on. >> he is playing kevin's, -- defense. he is not playing offense. which is something you noted in the memo. here is what i stand for. bill: give me five bullet points. >> exactly. let me show you what i stand for and why this is going to make it better for you, the american consumer. bill: he can't do it, juan. >> he hasn't yet. evidence is a smart guy. that's a capable individual. bill: what do you say mary katharine? >> he is in super salvage mode right now. he is the guy out there. he was selling the public option but when people hear public option, they also hear government run health care. seniors here in order to pay for this government run health care, you are going to cut my programs. so he is running into serious problems here. and he is out there trying to salvage them. part of the reason is because he has been talking in generalities the whole time. he hasn't gotten down to nuts and bolts with congress and said, listen, this is what i want. he has let hem them run away with the process. these augu
. >> the president is going to hold another town hall in montana on friday. >>> in nigeria, secretary of state hillary clinton making some news by comparing elections there to elections here. this involves the discussion of nigeria's problems with widespread voter fraud. >> another off-the-cuff comment about elections, this time, about nigeria, she brought up an election in the u.s., in 2000 she said -- >> in 2000 our presidential election came down to one state where the brother of the man running for president was the governor of the state. so, we have our problems, too. >> aides said she was not being editorial, she simply was making the point of how candidates would accept election results even if it might be flawed. >> this is going to raise eyebrows. >> right. i think one of the questions when she was running, will the real hillary clinton stand up. looks like she's doing pap. >> there is a presidential election in afghanistan next week. hundreds of marines and afghan troops launched a new push to take some controls on the taliban. >> action here from the front lines of the war in afghan
reform? listen to what president obama said recently at a town hall meeting in montana every time we are in sight of health insurance reform the special interests fight back with everything they've got. they use their influence. they run their ads. and their political allies try to scare the heck out of everybody. it happened in '93. it's happening now. >> let's talk about specific groups that have an interest in either blocking reform outright or changing it or limiting it in some form. big pharmaceutical companies. is there anything in the reform bills about lowering the cost of prescription drugs? >> the pharmaceutical industry which is not a party to the 1993-94 effort is now with the white house. they want coverage. they want affordable coverage for everyone and they want copays to be reasonable and as mr. skeptic would say that's because they'll have this huge group of people able to buy. they have agreed to cut $80 billion out of their costs. interestingly, they're spending -- >> over ten years. >> and interestingly they're spending $150 million in advertising to push for heal
and starlet were huge fans of hannah montana. she says jaycee dreamed of becoming a model. always clean and well-dressed, no hint of the tragic reality. investigators have expanded the crime scene at phillip garrido's home. they've brought cadaver dogs to search the property next door. authorities are looking into where garrido could be connected to a string of murders in the 1990s. >> what we also know is that phillip garrido had access to that property. he used that property and it looks like he lived on that property in a shed. >> reporter: as we've scoured garrido's hometown looking for clue, we found this in a hardware score, the name phil g. on a donation card. on august 17th, this receipt shows garrido bought a pressure switch and then left a $2 donation to the children's miracle network. >> here's what perhaps is the most bizarre angle of this story -- if jaycee or alyssa as she was called by her captor -- was allowed to be out in public from time to time as we just heard somebody say in that report, why didn't she ever ask for help? that is the question i'm going to ask to my n
again for this weekend for two town hall meetings, first on friday in bolton, montana, then saturday in grand junction, colorado. wolf? >> he's going to be busy at both those meetings and other stops, as well. thanks very much, dan lothian. jack cafferty has "the cafferty file." jack? >>> there is another view of this, of course. when it comes to town hall meetings, the democrats might want to rethink their strategy. arlen specter and claire mccaskill are the latest to be drowned out by protesters. one woman in missouri told mccaskill, quote, if they don't let us vent our frustrations out, they will have a revolution, unquote. protesters at arlen specter's meeting said they think the obama administration is going too far with health care reform. one woman shouted out, quote, this is about dismantling this country. specter said he thinks the people proetsdsing are, quote, not necessarily representative of america, but he thinks they should be heard. president obama and the democrats seem to face an increasingly uphill battle with selling health care reform to a skeptical public. peopl
heads to new hampshire for a town hall meeting on health care, later montana, home of senator baucus, a key democrat trying to negotiate a deal on health care reform. >> thank you so much. in the piece you heard david scott prom the doctor who spoke in the town hall forum if he wanted a meeting he could have one. both men got a chance to have their say last night on newsroom. >> these individuals have a right to come and express their opinion but this must be done in a very deliberate manner. this is a very complex issue. i have a health care meeting. i have a health care event every year. this was something that was orchestrated. this gentleman came there to hijack this meeting that was not about health care, and that's why i was very concerned. >> i want to talk about health care. i feel like we really need to stop doing all these distractions. this is a democracy and we need to be able to come together as adults and people with ideas and to be able to express our ideas back and forth. that's how a democracy is supposed to work. coming in and screaming and hollering and being strup
meeting in montana. leading those negotiations he got an earful that basically, if we are looking for a public option it is not going to happen. white house doesn't really have an ability to fight this that they really want to. >> mike emanuel, thanks very much. >> julie: now we want to know what you think. who do you trust more, your insurance company or the government. >> tweet us at twitter.com. "got one that said, i think the question would be better posed who are you more afraid of the health insurance companies or its government. >> i think the poll is on that. >> julie: we'll be talking to scott rasmussen about what americans will be thinking about right now. >> trace: it's considering taking over such a personal issue of our life. it's very scary. >> gregg: police making an arrest in a frightening and bizarre attack on the mayor. tom barrett recovering in the hospital he was beaten with a metal pipe. he was attacked last night as he was leaving wisconsin state fair with his family. the mayor had just come to the aid of a woman when she was attacked by the pipe wielding sus
and that's why he is headed off to montana and new hampshire this week. he is really trying to get a hold and take control once again of this debate. there has been so much emotion and criticism around this. when you see those town halls, he'll get out there and have a few town halls himself. >> suzanne in guadalajara. thanks very much. let's check in with jack cafferty right now. he's got "the cafferty file." jack, four years ago, this weekend, you and i began a partnership. >> that's true. right here in "the situation room." >> can you believe it's been four years the "the situation room" has been on the air? >> it's amazing, isn't it? >> yes. >> you know what i find remarkable? i look pretty much the same, but you've aged a lot. >> i know i have. that's what "the situation room" has done to me. time flay flyes when you're having fun. >> this is kind of a fun thing we do. in an update to this story, this isn't fun, this thing i'll tell you about. an update to a story we brought you last week in "the cafferty file." a group of republican and democratic senators is now saying not so fast
: tomorrow that will be billy ray cyrus. brian: really? steve: hannah montana's dad is going to be on the program. meanwhile, a headline that says "firms with obama ties profit from the health push." it talks about how the health care overhaul is a financial windfall to a couple of democrat consulting firms closely connected to the president and a couple of his top advisors. $24 million worth of ads are being bought and put on tv. the two firms hired, one is gmmb which worked for barack obama during the 2008 campaign, and also akpd. the a stands for axelrod started by david axelrod. of course, he has separated himself from the company. but there are some who are going, now, wait a minute, this seems a little too cozy. the white house denies that mr. axlerod is making any money from it. gretchen: they do still owe him # million from the stock sale. they're going to be making those payments over the next couple of years. but interestingly enough, at that firm that he created, his son still works there. and no surprise that the two top advisors to obama, these are their former j
of montana in towards north dakota could see maybe an isolated tornado, certainly some wind damage and some hail and one other spot down across parts of the southwest. arizona, california, up towards las vegas and the california river valley dealing with thunderstorms for your afternoon as well. shannon? >> thank you, rick. >>> the family of missing georgia woman christy cornwell is hoping a website and reward will help police to uncover new leads into her disappearance. the 38-year-old woman is believed to have been abducted august 11th. georgia police spent eight days looking for her before they wrapped up their search on wednesday. >>> canadian police are stepping up the search for jenkins. the hunt for 32-year-old ryan jenkins is focused on areas surrounding vancouverer and british columbiaia. the couple met in march in vegas and were married for days. >>> once a sex offender served his or her time, finding a place to live can be a challenge. one man, a registered sex offender himself has made it his mission to find homes for people just like him. joining us on the phone is r.l. young.
, nebraska, montana, north dakota. those states had democratic senators who voted for john mccain. he had to win enough of them over the get this bill to the senate. >> is it always a waste of time as paul seems to to suggest that the president could reach out and find some republicans who would work with him the him on this? >> i think he's entirely wrong. the center of gravity of american politics is not in the progressive wing, and the progressive movement is mature enough to understand that and support a president who is more liberal than conservative. if they're not mature enough, they can throttle his chances. but i do think that if the president had more shrewdly laid out his case it would have been harder to criticize it effectively. >> what you mean to say, if he would have come up with a plan instead of letting the democrats in congress come up with a plan. >> i think he allowed himself to have -- a plan with so few details, it's like a rorschach test. project everything positive on me, now they're projecting everything negative on me. >> bill clinton tried that and that didn't
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